Repost: Os Guinness | The Hope of the World

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good evening I want to welcome you live from the studio here at corage media
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ministries for this special kingdom come online session kingdom come was
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originally supposed to be a on-site conference that was coming up this weekend but our speakers have been
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gracious enough to bring their talks to you via livestream over the course of
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the next few weeks kingdoms come purpose is this we want to know what does it
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mean for the people of God to advance the kingdom on earth as it is in heaven
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and so we’re gonna be joined in the next few weeks by a number of leaders in our
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in the Christian community that are going to help us discover what it means to live as agents of the kingdom of God
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here on earth as you know Kovan 19 this pandemic has radically changed the world
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but the people of God have always gone through crisis always gone through
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pandemics this is nothing new for the people of God and so we want to be thinking about whenever we go through
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crisis how do we respond effectively as witnesses to the kingdom of God Before
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we jump into our first speaker tonight dr. oz Guinness I want to make you aware of a special partnership that we have
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over the next four weeks we’ve partnered with a great ministry entitled ten of
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those ten of those as a is passionate about serving the church by providing great biblical resources to Christians
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at an affordable price as a church here at Coral Ridge you understand that our vision is simple we
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exist to equip gospel centered culture shaping Christians and developing a
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biblical worldview is absolutely pivotal and important and so drawing these
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sessions over the next few weeks you’re going to be able to go to the website ten of those dot-com forward-slash
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kingdom come the links should appear on your screen and you’ll be able to buy books from our various speakers tonight
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will be offering books from dr. oz Guinness the three books in particular that will be
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available at a discounted rate are the last call for liberty fools talk recovering the art of
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christian persuasion and the global public square we hope you go to 10 of
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those calm forward-slash kingdom come well our speaker tonight is none other
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than dr. oz Guinness he is a Christian author and a social critic born in China
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in World War two two parents who were medical missionaries he studied at the
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University of London and Oriel College at Oxford University he moved to America
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in 1984 has written and edited over 30 books was the lead rafter of the
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Williamsburg Charter in 1988 he also is the great-great-great grandson of Arthur
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Guinness the world-famous Brewer from Dublin Ireland he has spoken at many of
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the world’s major universities and political and business conferences across the world he lives in McLean
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Virginia with his wife Jenny I am pleased to introduce to you dr. oz
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guinness oz so great to see you tonight and have you with us tremendous
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privilege to me rob thank you Osby had so many great plans for you this weekend Friday night and Saturday
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and you were so gracious to be flexible enough to come to us from your home this
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evening are your most welcome I have happy memories of many visits to Carl
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Ridge I was just thinking I’d much prefer to be with you than stuck here in the rain
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in mcclain there was one time I spoke at the prayer breakfast in Fort Lauderdale and your
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Irish met the mayor kindly gave me freedom of the city which he told me was
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a key to about 1 bar on your Beach and that was it I remember that I was in
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attendance I think that was Mayor Jim Naugle I think at that prayer breakfast that’s great know somebody not to be
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with you but what a privilege to be with you absolutely well I can’t think of a better speaker
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to come to us via livestream to talk to us the core rich community and people
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that are tuning in from all over the country tonight to discuss what it means to be an agent of the kingdom of God so
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please take it away and we look forward to hearing from you tonight thank you well you said just a few remarks on the
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pandemic so just a very very few because as I see it the pandemic struck at the
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same time as lint and Passover and both are seasons in which either Jews or
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Christians are challenged to self-examination and I think that’s one good thing that the pandemic has done on
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all sorts of levels and we must really think through a lot of things so just some very quick remarks in that
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connection first modernity the heart of
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the modern world is control reason science technology mastery control
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self-reliance and emic reminds us we are not in control and we need to go out of
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this with far greater humility secondly all of our lives as individuals here we
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are in the most comfortable wealthy prosperous country in the tie history
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and we’re surrounded with what Pascal used to call diversions weapons of mass
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destruction as the psychologists call them and I think the pandemic reminds us
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life is short life is fragile life is vulnerable and
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we got to live a short life wisely and well and think that through thirdly
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globalization you can see in the pandemic a genuinely global Titanic
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problem and many of the modern problems sex trafficking and things like that I like that so they’re gonna take much
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greater prayer and effort for us as followers of Jesus to tackle these grand
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global problems that’s the world we’re in and we need to
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act locally but think globally and of course pray globally fourth point the
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West you can see as many the ethical issues have been raised the West is
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increasingly shown up as a cut flower civilization the West has cut its
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biblical is Jewish and Christian roots we’re living off the whiff of an empty
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bottle as is being said and we as follows that Jesus our gotta fight to
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restore the roots of our Western culture things like truth words human dignity
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freedom justice if these things don’t have roots we’re in a very dangerous
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world Tesla maybe most importantly of all the church the scandal of the American
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Church is that we are the one Church in the Western world where were a huge
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majority of the country and yet we have less cultural influence than tiny groups
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are far smaller than we take say our Jewish friends less than two percent of
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America but they punch well above their weight and we have called to be salt and
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light a culturally impotent and ineffective and we got to say why we
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have been shaped far too much by the world and not by the gospel and this
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should be time for a radical re-examination of the church in modern
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America to come out of this praying to the Lord for an awakening revival
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restoration that we may be the salt and light that he called us to be but enough
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of those quick remarks about reflections in the light of the pandemic you could
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talk for an hour on each of those but let me switch to the one I was going to address have I been with you in
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person and that is the American crisis itself as here we are as followers in
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Jesus at a very crucial pivotal moment for the American Republic
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the climax of the Revolutionary War was Yorktown 1781 and if you know the story
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legend has it that when the British troops were forced to come out to surrender they were ordered to play the
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tune the world turned upside down now that tune went back to the English
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revolution in the 1640s and it had Christian roots obviously the deepest
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route was act 17 and you think how God
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creates order humans create disorder through sin and so as the gospel comes
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and we become partners with the Lord we work to be subversive to turn the world
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upside down which is turning it the right way up and that was the idea in
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the English revolution and of course the English revolution was the first of five
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great revolutions the English 1642 the French 1789 the Russian 1917 the Chinese
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1949 and of course I’ve missed out big one the American 1776 No why does that
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matter well if you look at those five revolutions the first two are very
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similar the English and the revolution and the American the only difference was
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the English revolution failed and the American Revolution succeeded but what
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United them was that they were both the child of the reformation and truths from
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the Bible rediscovered through the Reformation for example conscience and
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covenant and calling were critical to the American Revolution which succeeded
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now when we go to the French and the Russian and the Chinese they were
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against religion anti-christian and diametrically opposed to everything that
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was biblical so they’re quite different now why does that matter I said just to
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sort little historical nonsense that is the key to the present American crisis
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why America today is as deeply divided as at any moment since just before the
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Civil War but why some people say it’s the president now he’s the consequence
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of the division not the cause some people say it’s the social media and I think they’re the reinforcements of the
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division not the route others say it’s the Coastal’s California in New York
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against the hot Landers that’s partly true some people say it’s the
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Nationalists and populist over against the globalists in a borderless world and
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all that that has something enjoyed too but actually the deepest division is
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this and it’s very important for the gospel the difference between those who
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understand America and freedom from the perspective of 1776 and the American
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Revolution and those who understand America and freedom from the perspective
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of 1789 and the French Revolution because if you take ideas like
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post-modernism multiculturalism social constructionism the sexual revolution
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political correctness all those ideas which are flowing through America in the
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last 50 years they all go back to the heirs of the French Revolution and they
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have nothing to do with any ideas that come from either the Bible or the
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American Revolution now why are we facing those now well if you take the
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French Revolution it only lasted in France 10 years 1789 to 1799 and then in
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came Napoleon the revolution he said is over so we’re not talking about France
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today but the idea is Liberty Liberty the none
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of the things that have flowed from the French Revolution did much for liberty fraternity Brotherhood in the 19th
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century that created what was called revolutionary nationalism the
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unification of Italy Greece and even the rise of secular Zionism behind Petzl and
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the creation of the State of Israel in the 20th century because I think it’s
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like Marx in the 19th century the French Revolution flowered in revolutionary socialism in other words egg le Tay and
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that’s been the problem for the last century both in the Russian Revolution and in the Chinese Revolution but here’s
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the point in our time we are faced with what’s called cultural Marxism or
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neo-marxist more the technical term is critical theory how did that happen well
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actually a thinker called gremsky Antonio Gramsci sat in jail in the 1920s
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under Mussolini figuring out why Marxism didn’t work as Marx thought he said you
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don’t need a proletarian revolution you’ve got a win the gatekeepers people
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in charge of the cultural ideas now these ideas of his flowed down in the
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60s in California people at Herbert Marcuse oh my first visit to this
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country was 1968 anyone old enough to
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remember 1968 the older members of your congregation you remember Martin Luther
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King assassinated Bobby Kennedy assassinated 100 American cities were
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ablaze but here’s the point the radicals realize that through civil
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war on the streets they wouldn’t win it didn’t bring the government down
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anywhere in the West so they called for what was a long march through the
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institution’s 50 years ago 1967 and 68 in other words when the colleges and
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universities when the press and media win the world of entertainment and
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Hollywood and then you win America fifty years later they’ve done it and those ideas I
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mentioned like political correctness and so on they’re rampant in the American colleges and universities in many many areas and
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you can see that’s what’s at stake today now the great difference between the
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1850s and today in the 1850s the arguments of course were over slavery
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there was an Abraham Lincoln and he addressed what he called the better
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angels of the American character and he called America back to the Declaration
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of Independence and so on the better angels nobody literally nobody that I
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know at the highest levels are speaking about the better angels today so you
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have the forces that have flowed down from Paris in 1789 are very very
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powerful in America and obviously totally against the Christian Church and there’s no one at the highest level
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arguing for the better angels including an understanding of the American Revolution and above all of its roots
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now of course if you look at what came from France and what came in the
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American Revolution you have some fundamental differences they’re incredibly important for us as followers
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of Jesus standing for the gospel in the church let me just mention a few of them
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quickly first you have two different sources the source of the American
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Revolution was the Bible it was the Reformation Sola scriptura the invention
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of the printing press which meant the rediscovery of the Bible launched biblical ideas which shape the 17th
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century which historians call the biblical century the Hebrew Republic in
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the book of Exodus and so on so the sources are different the source of the
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French Revolution was the French enlightenment Voltaire jean-jacques
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Rousseau an absolute hatred of religion and the
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Christian faith and the church that’s important to understand you know as Deidre rod said back then we will never
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be free until we strangle the last king with the guts of the last priest and you
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can see that anti religious element open hostility in the Russian Revolution in
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the Chinese Revolution in the progressive left today for example if you read the sexual revolution back in
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the 20s so helm Reich the architect of that he says quite openly they will never win until they prevail over two
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enemies one parents got a knock out parents in families through sex
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education at three and four and two the Christian Church so we got to see the
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sources are absolutely different then secondly the understanding of humanity
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is profoundly different the American Revolution coming from the Scriptures is
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realistic checks and balances separation of powers actually have separation of
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powers in the Old Testament but the point is it comes from the notion of sin as Madison says being taught by John
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Witherspoon great presbyterian you have to have ambition to counteract ambition because we’re sinners checks and
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balances separation of powers the French Revolution the Russian Revolution the Chinese Revolution utopian the worst
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evils in history are done by utopians they think humans are perfect you’ve got
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bad political structures change them a bit in all would be well they don’t have a realistic view of sin always you have
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a gap between the ideal and the real you fill the gap obviously by force violence
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and so the utopian revolutions had been murderers in their consequences because
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of their lack of realism about in the nature one could go on to things like
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the Constitution many Americans don’t realize that the Amer a notion of Constitution is a national
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somewhat secular version of the Old Testament covenant that’s where it came
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from Calvin’s bingley bullying her Knox Cromwell the Mayflower Compact John
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Winthrop and so on covenant ilysm um one can go a lot deeper in terms of that came across from
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the Reformation and became in the 18th century evident in other words the
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Constitution is never your in-law a contract a covenant is deeper and
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depends on things like freedom and trust and trustworthiness and all sorts of
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things that you see in the book of Exodus and Deuteronomy so you have huge
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differences over that it’s not just a matter of law now when you go down the
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line and bring up all sorts that I mentioned one more addressing wrongs in
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this case both revolutions understand there are wrongs in Justice’s great
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offices but how do you address them well in the French way through what’s called
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critical theory you look at power equations whose the majority who’s the
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minority who’s got the power who’s winning who’s the victim who’s the oppressor and then you shape your
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politics based only on power after all there’s no truth there’s no truth there
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is only power and as Nietzsche says when God is dead truth is dead all you have
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left is power and so the progressive left has through critical theory this
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idea of always looking for the victim or victimized them Dow and using the victimized people as pawns to push that
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political game and when you look at something like say the Cavanaugh hearing you can see a raw naked expression of
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power and that’s incredibly dangerous because it’s dehumanizing and it really
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will undermine justice in the long hand now while those are Jesus
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we care about wrongs too but we have a way of addressing them as real wrongs
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before the Lord and then we call for repentance a genuine turning around
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there is forgiveness and there is reconciliation and you move towards the
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place where you have a future that is free from the past now if we go on the
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way we’re doing in America today the cycle of wrong and retaliation and
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revenge and reparation this will never end and the Republic itself will be
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undermined but we’ve got to go as people who love the gospel because the gospel
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brings peace in a deeper far more radical way and in some ways that
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difference over how we address wrongs is the deepest difference of all and very
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close to the heart of the gospel so what does this mean I’m not political and I’m
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English not American I admire this country enormous ly but America is at a
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crucial turning point today if certain forces go one way America will turn her
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back forever on the biblical roots of the American Revolution with disastrous
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prospects for freedom and justice and human dignity and various things in the
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future so we’re an extraordinary important moment in in this decade I
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couldn’t put it too strongly behind me on my study if we’re looking the other way
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I’ve got twenty or thirty my favorite writers and autographs among them I’ve
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got WB Yeats the Irish poet who in 1917 wrote the famous poem the second coming
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remember the line what rough beast is slouching towards Bethlehem to be born
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there are ideas at birth in this country at the moment which are disastrous
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remember the old line that the worst is the corruption of the best
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how could the best educated most civilized culture in Europe produce
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National Socialism and the death camps that was Germany Reformation Germany and
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I would say Americans cannot rest in their role and think that all will be
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well Erica always models from the end and so on no there are there are factors at
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work in this country which could produce the most profound evil in some ways
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maybe the world has seen one of the other people behind me on the wall is Alexander Solzhenitsyn
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and you remember these great speeches in the seventies and say don’t you Americans realize you’re gambling you’re
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civilization and that’s right the roots of the American Republic are
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being torn up and unless we stand now it may be too late
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as I said the challenge and scandal of the church is the way the biggest community here and yet wonderful groups
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like our Jewish friends and groups we disagree profoundly ways like say the LGBT community each of them say 2% of
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America and yet they have far more influence than we were a huge majority
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and yet we’re called the result on light so this very year is a critical year and
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I know Carl Ridge has always been in the forefront of stressing the importance of
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the kingdom and standing for the lordship of Christ over the whole of life and if ever there was a moment this
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is critical it’s now thank you rob thank
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you oz I truly appreciate that I love your perspective this evening one of the
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things we’ve been talking about a core Ridge particularly during that this Kovan 19 situation is that there’s there
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really is as you said tonight a deeper crisis in our in our country there’s a deeper crisis a deeper and a greater
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pandemic that we need to pray that we can be rescued from but we’ve also been praying
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that during this season that the people of God would be more reflective they would really begin to rethink their
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priorities and their values and that through this the people of God would be
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the ones who repent and turn away and really are responsible for leading a
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revival maybe unlike this generation has ever seen I have a few questions I would like
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to ask you just as follow-up to your talk tonight these have been questions submitted by
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leaders ministry leaders in our region and I think they’ll follow up nicely
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with your exhortation tonight for us to really think about what matters the most
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as the people of God but the first question is this many in our society
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today say that in order for our society to flourish we need to focus less on the
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absolute exclusive truth claims of Christianity and instead focus on the
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things that we all have in common what would you say to critics like that it’s
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a half truth in other words there are times when all the ways share in common
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with everyone humanity is the thing that we start with for example in the
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pandemic it’s not the place to be arguing apologetically people need love
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and care and compassion but at times when we’re talking about say some of the
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big issues the truth claims of the gospel incredibly important you just start with truth Jews and Christians
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people of the Scriptures we have a high view truth which America doesn’t have
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you have on the one hand relativism your truth my truth is truth or truth and you have the emotivism what feels good is
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good what feels bad is bad those things are nonsense we believe in truth and that’s only one of 10 things
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we need to say takes a human dignity or freedom itself America’s the land of the
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free we’re now seeing outside the Bible there is no grounding for freedom and so
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the exclusiveness of Christian and Jewish truth claims because we’re one on those sort of things I absolutely
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crucial so you got to know what’s appropriate when if it’s the love and compassion of reaching out to people are
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sick or hungry or whatever of course is a commonality and we are all people know
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why we love our neighbors as ourselves but there’s equally a very very important apologetic battle today
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because there are crazy there are muddled there are evil ideas
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around and we’ve got to combat them in the name of truth oh that’s good now you
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you alluded to it in your talk this evening you talked about the foundations of religious freedom can you unpack that
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a little more the question that came in specifically was what role does religious freedom play in a flourishing
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society now we’ve got to be clear religious freedom for us is secondary
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our love and faithfulness to Christ is primary and we will die for that
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religious freedom is secondary very very important it’s the freedom to be faithful so it’s very very important and
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it may be denied us and we will still be faithful even if we’re not allowed the freedom to be faithful just as martyrs
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down the centuries have died for our Lord but let’s think of freedom our religious freedom the trouble is we have
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an ambivalent record as Christians we are first the pioneers the first
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reference you could trace it back to Exodus but the words not used there but
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the first reference is to Italian the second century the second intriguingly
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is lactantius who was the tutor to the son of the Emperor Constantine so
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Christians are at the forefront of pioneering religious freedom but then we
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got to say with sorrow but the church was the perpetrator of the worst evils against religious freedom in history
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take the Inquisition or the pogroms or the notion that error has no rights horrendous things
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thank God the Catholic Church has now renounced those things and confessed
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them before the Lord and the world but we were perpetrators of the worst then
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of course the Reformation Martin Luther Martin Luther had a pretty bad record diatribes against the Jews and so on but
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it was Thomas Howells Roger Williams John Leland and people like that who are the pioneers of modern
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religious freedom and the rise of human rights and freedom of conscience so
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we’ve got a mixed record but we heard evangelicals and most of the Protestant community we have a much much stronger
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record than most so we’re in the forefront of this now if we look
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globally there never will be peaceful just Breeze societies without freedom of
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conscience it’s the first Liberty it’s the key to civil society and it’s the
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key to national harmony the tragedy is that after 300 years of America having
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the greatest record in history on religious freedom in the last 20 years
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there’s been a sea change I call it the three Dark Arts
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you’ve got the reducers who reduced religious freedom to freedom of worship
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no no it’s far more than freedom of worship then you have the removers who
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after 9/11 wanted to remove that messy business of religion from public life because it was dangerous but the worst
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of the three is the last one the rebrand is we’re now saying that religious
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freedom is a code word for bigotry and discrimination and therefore we should
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get rid of it so we’ve seen this terrible sea change so we have to be apologists for saying
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why religious freedom is so crucial it’s the freedom to be faithful but as I said its secondary the faithfulness itself
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when you think of the North American church today what concerns you the most
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well I say you know the scandal is its weakness now why is that as I understand
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it and I’ve written several books on this like impossible people expressly on
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that we’ve probably caved into ideas I mentioned relativism well you could take
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the sexual revolution evangelicals never caved into Protestant liberal revisionism thank God
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Protestantism in its liberal form undermined itself through revisionism
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evangelicals stood firm but with the coming of the sexual revolution we’ve caved in all over the place so
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partly we’ve caved into alien worldly ideas but as you know Rob my argument is
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long beam it’s not just ideas we’ve caved into the structural shaping of our
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modern world and that’s someone different and so to take one example heaven Jellicle says when I was a
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student when I came to faith fifty years ago evangelicals were people of
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authority the Bible was our authority we were under Authority Jesus was Lord look
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at have angelica’s and today people can believe any whatever somewhere we’ve got
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very soft on authority why our culture shifts us from authority to preference
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through consumerism everything’s a matter of what you choose your preference and so on and not only
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cereals not only relationships and cars and things like that but now churches
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like the music go down some ones are too long too short to this to that we shop
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around as we do so everything becomes a matter of my preference church of my
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choice and so on authority is gone so American evangelicalism has a profound
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crisis of authority which is the child are being shaped by American
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culture by the world and not by the word now that’s just one example we could
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look at and others we need Reformation profoundly amen to that as a follow-up
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to that question on the flip side what gives you as you look at the landscape
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of the church here in North America what gives you hope well I often put it people say I you a
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optimist or a pessimist and I doubt that one because often a matter of psychology is the glass half full or empty or
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matter of Li the market is it alittle bearish and I think as Christians we
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should be realistic but always hopeful and so what I often say is that and my
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background is partly in sociology many of the generalizations are negative
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look at this look at that you can see all sorts of rather sorry pessimistic
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generalizations of the shape of the church but it’s the exceptions that are
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wonderfully hopeful note was the islands of difference and that’s what we need to
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be concentrating on so just take two examples and one of the great movements in the last 25 years is say the
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international justice mission which grew from the heart of our local church in Washington Falls Church Anglican or you
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take another thing I mean the growing passion for prayer which is a wonderful
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thing so I look at all the exceptions which are terrific and say we’ve got to
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strengthen these exceptions to really gain a passion for justice typically
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understood for prayer not just personal prayer but intercessory prayer dealing
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with nations and empires and so on but there are wonderfully encouraging things
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happening today and of course the crisis is so deep it’s forcing us to see things
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like this but we can’t just you know I read books about the coming awakening
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crisis itself bring and awakening only if the People
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of God in the crisis turned to the Lord with a new urgency and seriousness that
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we may see under the mercy of the Lord and awakening repentance leads to
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revival let me switch gears briefly here before we wrap up as you’ve written and
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spoken for years about Christians finding their purpose the calling of the
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Christian one of the things we talk about here at Coleridge is being equipped to go out and be a gospel
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centered culture shaping Christian what encouragement do you have for any Christian whether it be here at Coral
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Ridge or the Christian that’s listening what encouragement would you have for them to go out it particularly in this
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post Christian world and go out and make a difference by being different but but
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going out to shape the culture in which they find themselves in what encouragement do you have for them what
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will you say post Christian Rob I understand you a lot of people take that in the direction of the Benedict option
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in other words they say we’ve reached the point of no return it’s post Christian and nothing can be
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done we’ve got to concentrate in our own deliberate Christian communities and I’m not sure that’s right and one of the
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biblical truths which is against that is the notion of calling now calling is the
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truth that is the most personal and the most public because we call to engage
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with all the lives in which our jobs and worked take us and calling of course
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from Abraham right through to our Lord it’s at the heart of God’s calling at
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his people in history so I think myself the calling is second only to the cross
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in being a truth which when rediscovered has an incredible power early powerful
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shaping impact on society and you can see the Reformation rediscovered calling
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in other words instead of the Catholic notion where vocation was pretty good no
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the Reformation the lordship of Christ it was everyone everywhere in everything and the salton light was everywhere and
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that’s what’s created the northern European Reformation reading capitalism and hundred other things so I don’t
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think it’s all over so yes but you are thinking is
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post-christian our public square is increasingly against us but only because we’ve opted out and there’s no need to
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run for the hills and build the monasteries yet the Reformation but its
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emphasis on the lordship of Christ over everything through calling as I wrote my
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book the call I found my most popular book and that made the difference rather
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than the monastery so st. Benedict ins and Francis and the rest of them known
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as the Reformation was a return to the scripture and a reversal of the
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monkeying of the world amen I love your
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hopeful optimism Oz last question and this can be a short answer but from what
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I hear you saying tonight is revival still possible in the West of course of
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course but we’ve been discussing that here in Washington a lot recently I grew
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up in China as you know and in those missionary circles there were many
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revivals but I grew up later in the West I only know one place and it’s instantly
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connected with Donald Trump’s mother I only know one place where there was a
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community-wide revival in the sense of the Welsh revival of the Irish revival
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or the great revival of the 1739 and so on in England in America and that was in
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the island of Lewis and since then we’ve got to be honest revival has been in
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local churches or in certain colleges like Wheaton it’s never been much wider
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now I haven’t noticed what the media would do if there was a nationwide revival today but we’ve got to trust the
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Lord that he is sovereign and bigger than modernity and the revival even
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under the conditions of modernity would not be impossible but I’m totally
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against those who say we’ve had the first from the second awakening we’re now on the verge of the third one I’m
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reading a lot of stuff currently as if it’s the crisis produced the resurgence
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of faith and revival no no revival is not what the Baptist’s call their
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week-long mission no no revival is an outpouring of a sovereign work of the Holy Spirit convicting of sin and
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convincing of truth and we have not seen that in a powerful way
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in the last century in the heart so can it happen absolutely am i praying for it
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daily with others daily but is it automatic no it’s a sovereign work of a
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gracious us thank you so much for all of
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your perspective tonight one of the things as I mentioned earlier that during this season during this current
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crisis the people of God would gain perspective on what they value and what
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they hold dear and you have just continued to help us in that thinking
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and in this conversation and in this season giving us great perspective as the people of God I just want to remind
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everybody who is watching tonight to make sure you go to 10 of those dot-com
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forward-slash Kingdom Come where you can see a selection of great Christian books including several of the books written
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by our guest tonight oz Guinness Oz thank you so much for
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joining us tonight for this first online forum for kingdom come you have truly
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inspired me and I know all those listening at home this evening to further discover what it means to be an
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agent of the kingdom of God as you said multiple times tonight living here on earth
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bringing heaven to earth and bringing hope to a dark world so may the Lord
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bless you and keep you thank you well could I be rude enough to suggest anyone’s interested my book my latest
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book copy I am redeemed is actually totally relevant to the pandemic and the
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life threatened by the Angel of Death it’s precisely on that okay that’s carpe diem redeemed yen
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redeemed it’s a consume view of time and history seizing the day and understanding the
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times I with you and I hope it’ll be in
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person sometime thank you rob absolutely I want to encourage everybody watching tonight please make sure if you were
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encouraged by this evenings talk by oz Guinness for word this link it’ll be on
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our YouTube channel at Coral Ridge Presbyterian Church go to our YouTube channel forward this talk on to friends
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and family members this was such an encouraging and but I opening conversation and discussion tonight
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thank you all for tuning in for watching and until next time our next kingdom
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come conversation we will see you then may the Lord bless you and keep you